Perhaps one of the most in-depth conversations with Ihsahn about his songwriting talent and black metal. Throughout the chat, Ihsahn discusses his musical connection with Devin Townsend and why he still refers to his solo material as black metal; he dives deep into why black metal is all about innovation and discusses Emperor’s involvement in the criminal aspect of gen two black metal early years. This conversation was recorded on February 27, 2018, and the compelling event is the release of the album Ámr. This is the first time the chat has been broadcast on YouTube, having been available on the Scars and Guitars podcast apps.
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